The independent MC launched a series of tweets on Saturday (September 18), claiming he hired the Live Civil CEO for $60,000 circa 2014 — long before he released his breakout singles, “Ross Capicchioni,” “I’m Not Racist” and the “Will (Remix),” the biographical track that made Will Smith come outta rap retirement last year.
“My son was on the way and you stole 60k from me before I got in the game @KarenCivil,” Joyner Lucas tweeted, attached a business PDF to his accusation. “I hired you as a consultant and below attached was the memo you sent me. I was desperate for help and you knew that. After you was paid you went ghost and didn’t expect me to pop [demon time emoji] here I am.
“After you got the money paid up front, you stopped answering my calls & every time I hit you, you answered the phone with a attitude like I was messing up your day. I sent you hella messages pleading with you to do your job becuz my back was againts the wall. You took advantage.”
Lucas made the same claims in 2016 and even cited Cam’ron’s past beef with Karen Civil as the reason he’s reissuing them today.
“At this time I was afraid to speak up for myself becuz I didn’t want to get blackballed. I had no idea how this industry Shìt works and I ain’t want you to drag my name thru the mud so out of fear i stayed [zipper-face emoji] Until @Mr_Camron spoke up a few years ago on Twitter and then I did.”
As he dug up old text messages exchanges between the two and accused of her having media leverage, Karen Civil released a statement to The Shade Room, explaining her version of events.
“It’s easy to make broad statements when you aren’t familiar with the backend of the business,” the statement began.
“Subcontractors were paid including Ravenel Agency, PR, local Reps. All parties contracted out on your behalf to execute were paid from the budget alloted. His manager called me to rectify the situation after Joyner made his first claims in which I said we can happily discuss after a public apology was made since he used that same platform to lie about money taken from him. I recorded the call just for future circumstances like this.
Unfortunately he’s now utilizing this moment to amplify and create a social momentum around himself again.
He and I both had separate conversations with Charlamagne [Tha God] this morning where he passed on his phone number so we can have a discussion directly, but instead he took to social.
Nothing was stolen or taken from you.
Unfortunately, certain artist are under the impression they have 24/7 access to you.”
Shortly after the statement was published, Joyner Lucas ripped through the statement, reverting back to the aforementioned vacation as being the ultimate rap business betrayal.
As of press time, a red-hot Clubhouse chat titled “KAREN CIVIL BEEN A FRAUD I tried to tell y’all” is happening with the likes of Joe Budden, Wack 100, Top Dawg Entertainment’s Punch and both Karen Civil and Joyner Lucas in the mix.